Can one consider themselves Christian and post in the sex fourm? [Archive]

FAMU

10-08-2001, 11:37 AM

It has been brought to my attention that some Christians on this message boad consider it hypocritical for somebody to proclaim that they are Christians, but talk about different sex issues. Is this true? Am I hypocritical because I don't mind talking about sex?? Does this mean I am not born again or that I am not saved? I mean are we not human? Is not sex a common human instict? Are we so naive to think that Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, and Peter never thought about sex?

ThickBodyHottie

10-08-2001, 11:52 AM

if you cannot say what you say in the sex forum to your parents, pastor, spouse or fellow church members, then, as a christian, you shouldn't be saying it...

...like the keychains say, "w.w.j.d?"
certainly not discuss sex the way WE do in there...

FAMU

10-08-2001, 12:15 PM

I don't know TBH. I have had conversation about sex with my spouse, pastor, and other church members. I mean the wording is different. Instead of saying "my dick" I would say "My thang", instead of saying pussy I would say "coochie", and instead of saying fucking I would say "making love", but the context of the conversation would be the same. It all would mean the same thing. Therefore, it all has the same value. 2+2= 4 all day long no matter how u look at it. I feel that we are on the level in here that we can talk freely about sex and talk about it on a level that would appear XXX society, but in reality it is in the same context that King Solomon wrote about in "The Song of Solomon" Sex is Sex.

Tastey

10-08-2001, 12:35 PM

I think that a person should be who they are. By staying away from the sex forum when an answer is burning in your fingers to be typed...that's hippocritical.

I don't discuss my periods with my pastor either. :rolleyes:

I think it boils down to judging. A person saying "Well if she/he said that they must not be a Christian" when in actuality that's no one place to decide another's Christian walk based on statements made.

I have posted and will post again in the sex forum and I have been told that it's un-Christian. Honestly I don't concern myself with that. I've also been told the internet is un-Christian, and blasting my speakers in my car (althought it was MaryMary) is un-Christian. It is not my mission to prove my Christianity to man, or the Hush. Basically it's something I've never proclaimed.

I posted that I love the Lord, and I praise him daily, and I am concerned about my relationship with him, anything else is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

My pastor teaches that sin is anything that seperates you from God. I don't see posting in any forum about things I've done as falling into that category.

HulaSista

10-08-2001, 12:42 PM

Famu...wasn't the sex talk in Soloman primarily between man and wife, and therefore, for one who teaches or preaches, they explain that the openness is okay between man and wife without the need to discuss it outside of the marriage between opposite sexes?

i don't know...i think its okay to discuss thangs...but...the sin of it all comes in when you have bad intentions and act on those intentions, don't it?

like...we are all talkin about how to give head...and because michelle has the best anwser, all the guys make an effort to get at michelle and michelle falls for it and follow through.

que90nek

10-08-2001, 12:45 PM

lol@hula

HulaSista

10-08-2001, 12:51 PM

:D

;)

ThickBodyHottie

10-08-2001, 01:02 PM

ya'll know ya'll ain't supposed to be talking about sex like that!
please...

dns70

10-08-2001, 01:41 PM

Sex is natural. Discussing it as it relates to a husband and wife is one thing. Discussing it as sex and the man versus sex and the woman is cool. But when you partake in posts about "how to give oral sex" or "favorite positions" or "who swallows this or that" well...that's a different thing. Are you discussing it in a vulgar or offensive or lascivious way?

II Corinthians discusses the ways of a "carnal" Christian and one of the sins a Carnal Christian partakes in is Lasciviousness. Which is being living a lustful or sexually explicit lifestyle. Do you really think someone is going to consider a person to be a serious Christian if they're dropping f-bombs and vulgar terms for genitalia all over the place?

I would have to say that I don't post much in the sex columns. I've posted before but I don't think that I've ever posted anything that I would describe as vulgar or un-Christ like. I don't see a lot of threads that I could post on in the sex column that wouldn't be contradictory to what I believe and practice.

ThickBodyHottie

10-08-2001, 01:44 PM

well said, dns...

Brightness

10-08-2001, 02:24 PM

Okay, I'm guilty for one because I post and I think about it whether I'm engaging or not and whether I post or not. I have resisted the urge to open threads and/or comment even when I did open them and not respond. . .we know we are all looking at them.

I think I'm going to ask ADMIN to lock me out of the sex forums. . .

CLSmooove

10-08-2001, 02:58 PM

To each their own.....

As someone very dear to me once said.... "Preachers Fuck too" I mean sex is a part of life.... Just because u are a christian or saved doesnt mean that part of your life is over....

But I do think that the tone in which a christian says things carries alot of weight.... Its hard for me to over come a saved person saying they fucked this person or they sucked such and such's dick.... using those words...but i guess that is my problem to get over.....

OhSoPrecious

10-08-2001, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by HulaSista+
...and because michelle has the best anwser, all the guys make an effort to get at michelle and michelle falls for it and follow through.

Ain't that the truth~!! :eek: . . . especially the follow through part~!! :rolleyes:

(sigh)

Btw, I don't think that once you say you are a christian. . . you should be all up in the sex forum talking like CL just described~!! :rolleyes: That ain't even right~!!!

I agree. . it's all in how you say things~!! :hammer And, don't be talking like that and then go ask for forgiveness~!!!!!! :rolleyes:

que90nek

10-09-2001, 08:12 AM

its a good thing that ya'll are not God...
we would all be going to hell.

let me ask ya'll this...is it just bad to write in the sex forum or is reading in the sex forum somehow different?

ya'll kills me!

FAMU

10-09-2001, 08:33 AM

I can agree that the way that one talks or express themselves in the sex fourm should not be vulgar, but just because someone posts in the sex fourm does not mean that he/she is not Christian. Nearly all regular hush members at some point and time has posted in the sex fourm, so no one is innocent in this at all. Que, made a excellant point when he says that many people are reading, but not responding are they just as guilty as the one that are posting?

I got another question. Is it wrong for a Christian to go see a R-rated movie? I mean the movies being made nowadays are just as graphic as many X-rated movies or are Christians suppose to close their eyes when a sex scene comes on the screen?

ThickBodyHottie

10-09-2001, 08:40 AM

and, que...i'm glad you are not a pastor talkin' about positions you want to do and cheesy juices from coochie...is THAT christian? answer that...

HulaSista

10-09-2001, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Famu+
I got another question. Is it wrong for a Christian to go see a R-rated movie? I mean the movies being made nowadays are just as graphic as many X-rated movies or are Christians suppose to close their eyes when a sex scene comes on the screen?

good question......

its the same deal as the sex forum i would think.....except......even though all don't post or read in that forum....we all see r-rated movies......:rolleyes:

que90nek

10-09-2001, 11:50 AM

no i am not a pastor...and ya'll are not my congregation!

let's take it a step further for all ya'll that want to cast stones and tell people that they going to hell for posting questions in an online forum.....

Ya'll are supporting a bulletin board that supports cussing, unchristianlike behavior, can't even have a christian forum, has a sex forum that is off da chain....ya'll mere support of this website...is surely gonna have ya'll burning in hell.....:rolleyes:

geez luiz!!!!!!!!

FAMU

10-09-2001, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by que90nek+
no i am not a pastor...and ya'll are not my congregation!

let's take it a step further for all ya'll that want to cast stones and tell people that they going to hell for posting questions in an online forum.....

Ya'll are supporting a bulletin board that supports cussing, unchristianlike behavior, can't even have a christian forum, has a sex forum that is off da chain....ya'll mere support of this website...is surely gonna have ya'll burning in hell.....:rolleyes:

geez luiz!!!!!!!!

<------ Stands and gives Que a standing ovation

mack_black

10-09-2001, 12:47 PM

to me unchristianlike behavior is based on that person's perception.....burning in hell ,going to heaven, etc....its your perception that will motivate you to do or be whatever....

Personally, I see no problem with christians posting in the sex forum or going to see whatever movie they choose....I would imagine that some see this as a sin....well, that is their perception of life...

I think the better question would be....

are you a weak or strong christian.....

Tastey

10-09-2001, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by mack_black+
I think the better question would be....

are you a weak or strong christian.....

Awww suki suki now. :p

que90nek

10-09-2001, 01:03 PM

that may be a legitimate question, but i am trying to establish a correlation between that question and the original question.....

are u saying that strong christians do not post in the sex forum? and that weak ones do? :confused:

Tastey

10-09-2001, 01:11 PM

I can't speak for Mack...but when I read it my thoughts were this.

If posting in the sex forum is going to stop me from being a Christian I must not have been a very strong one to begin with.

If seeing an R rated movie is going to make me run out and sin...then again...I must be a very weak Christian.

It's not the strength or weakness that makes you post or not post. It's the strength or weakness that determines your actions, thoughts, and feelings about posting.

mack_black

10-09-2001, 01:18 PM

My Exact Sentiments Tastey

that is what I meant Que..... :D

ThickBodyHottie

10-09-2001, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by ThickBodyHottie+
and, que...i'm glad you are not a pastor talkin' about positions you want to do and cheesy juices from coochie...is THAT christian? answer that...

again...

que90nek

10-09-2001, 03:33 PM

yes, it is christian.

OhSoPrecious

10-10-2001, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by mack_black+
I think the better question would be....

are you a weak or strong christian.....

Although that is a great question. . . I don't think strength has anything to do with it~!! :rolleyes:

And.. Que, quit playin~!! :blah:

I always thought that once you become saved and say you are a Christian. . . that you're not suppose to do the things that you use to do~!! :confused: Whatever that might have been. . things of the world (as some would say). . . has everything to do with sinning~!!

Yes, sex is natural. . . preachers f*ck too. . . yada yada yada. . . but, there are just certain things that Christians should not do~!! :eek: And, I'm not talking about not seeing R rated movies~!!

I think you guys that claim to be saved. . . know what I am talking about~!! :rolleyes:

I think Dns summed it up pretty well~!! :hearts:

que90nek

10-10-2001, 01:56 PM

uh....your logic is flawed. by your logic...i should not do all the good things that i used to do when i was unsaved. :confused:

bottom line...is if u r uncomfortable in the sex forum...if YOU feel like it is a sin for you...then stay the hell out! don't u click on it one more time...rebuke satan! don't let him trick u into clicking on the sex forum! if u click it...u r worshippin a false idol...and u r going to hell!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

OhSoPrecious

10-10-2001, 02:00 PM

I think you got a little carried away there~!!! :rolleyes:

(sigh)

que90nek

10-10-2001, 02:05 PM

that is precisely my point.
the forum is just a forum...nothin more ...nothin less.

for those that think it is more...and are "weak"...stay out of that forum. stay away i tell u....:lol:

HulaSista

10-10-2001, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by que90nek+
bottom line...is if u r uncomfortable in the sex forum...if YOU feel like it is a sin for you...then stay the hell out! don't u click on it one more time...rebuke satan! don't let him trick u into clicking on the sex forum! if u click it...u r worshippin a false idol...and u r going to hell!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

:p :p :p :p

seductive_tee

10-10-2001, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by dns70+
lascivious?

Dictionary time....:D

seductive_tee

10-10-2001, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by ThickBodyHottie+
and, que...i'm glad you are not a pastor talkin' about positions you want to do and cheesy juices from coochie...is THAT christian? answer that...

:eek: :cry: :eek: :cry:

seductive_tee

10-10-2001, 04:39 PM

I must ay...ya'll are funny....but

Seductive Tee plans to post, open, reply and respond in ALL threads....especially the SEX THREAD .

Where else i'm gonna post the adult specials of the month.

Ya'll really kill me

First it was cursing, now it's sex in the religion thread..... :D :D :D

Yes i'm addicted to the HUSH!

Now let me go see whats in the sex thread....lol

Tastey

10-10-2001, 04:53 PM

Ya'll have taken this waaaaay past where it should be. :rolleyes:

Bottom line. If I say I am saved then I post that last night I sucked some man's d*ck. The sin is not in posting it. The sin happened last night. :rolleyes:

Posting in whatever forum is just that posting. by some moral code maybe I should stay out of entertainment reviews too because they discuss... :eek: secular music, artists, and movies :eek:

If I am posting what I did 5 years ago...it has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not I'm saved today.

If I am posting about what I'd like to do in the future (with my husband) it has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not I'm saved today.

If I am posting about what I think of what someone else has done sexually it still has NOTHING to do with whether or not I am saved today.

God gave 10 commandments. I don't remember either one of them being Thou shalt not post in the sex forum of the Hush.

Guess what? I just came from Bible Study and we were discussing sex toys and beastiality. :blah:

seductive_tee

10-10-2001, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Tastey+
Guess what? I just came from Bible Study and we were discussing sex toys and beastiality. :blah:

Did you take them MsVicoius sale of the Month Package! :D

Tastey

10-10-2001, 05:11 PM

RFLOL @ Tee

Sparkles

10-11-2001, 04:58 AM

don't SIN?!?!?!?!

What about THou shall not JUDGE!!! What happen to that. By the way folks are posting comments first of all you are judging other folks for posting in the sex forum.

Sinning is sinning, we all do it! whether is lying, cheating, sexing, shacking, whatever a person does that's again the bible is sinning. I am with tastey on this one,

+ Ya'll have taken this waaaaay past where it should be.

Bottom line. If I say I am saved then I post that last night I sucked some man's d*ck. The sin is not in posting it. The sin happened last night.

Posting in whatever forum is just that posting. by some moral code maybe I should stay out of entertainment reviews too because they discuss... secular music, artists, and movies

If I am posting what I did 5 years ago...it has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not I'm saved today.

If I am posting about what I'd like to do in the future (with my husband) it has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not I'm saved today.

If I am posting about what I think of what someone else has done sexually it still has NOTHING to do with whether or not I am saved today.

God gave 10 commandments. I don't remember either one of them being Thou shalt not post in the sex

It not the posting in the sex forum it's the act, you might as well post it, if you are thinking it. SOme of you might need to check youself before becoming up in here casting stones!!!

que90nek

10-11-2001, 06:37 AM

actually sparkles....christians can and do judge other christians. judge may be a strong word...

Tastey

10-11-2001, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by que90nek+
actually sparkles....christians can and do judge other christians. judge may be a strong word...

Uhm maybe it's just me but it seems to me that what we actually have here is not Christians judging Christians but the unsaved telling the saved how they are supposed to act. :rolleyes:

Sparkles

10-11-2001, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Tastey+

Uhm maybe it's just me but it seems to me that what we actually have here is not Christians judging Christians but the unsaved telling the saved how they are supposed to act. :rolleyes:

true tastey, I guess why we don't have a christian forum!!!
Que where did you readget that it's right for christian to judge, i am just curious to read it for myself.?!?!?!

shtalker

10-11-2001, 07:14 AM

Well I was going to stay out of this but I thought that even if you proclaimed to be saved you still contimue to grow and learn of the things that should not be done. We all are born it to sin so if we are learning how to be good christian that of course people are still going to sin does that make them hypocritical or still trying to get there. I don't think there are any true and perfect christians.

que90nek

10-11-2001, 07:18 AM

well....
start with 1st Corinth 5:12...or if u look at the entire chapter...the church is responsible to kick that person out that is evil within the church even though God is already judgin that person...
then
look at matt 7....which starts out warning u that the standards that u judge...YOU TOO will be judged...the real standard is already established by God because God can see into your heart.

bottom line: one should be very careful Judging someone else...Period.

Sparkles

10-11-2001, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by que90nek+
well....
start with 1st Corinth 5:12...or if u look at the entire chapter...the church is responsible to kick that person out that is evil within the church even though God is already judgin that person...
then
look at matt 7....which starts out warning u that the standards that u judge...YOU TOO will be judged...the real standard is already established by God because God can see into your heart.

bottom line: one should be very careful Judging someone else...Period.

Okay, I understand what you mean, and your bottom line is correct we are right---------->:idea< ----------------!!!!!.

Tastey

10-11-2001, 07:30 AM

No where in that passage in Cor does it say Christians have a right to judge other Christians.

Chapter 12-13 says (NIV)
But should you not judge the members of your own fellowship? As the scriptures says, "Remove the evil person from your group."

Now first of all in order to remove a person from your fellowship you have to have a fellowship. This scripture is talking about allowing people to hold offices in the church who are doing immoral things. It is talking about having a church that is God-centered, not wordly. It in no way suggests that simply because you claim Christianity you can judge another Christian.

It also states further in the chapter that you are to go to this person in love, council with them and the elders of the church to try to convince them to repent. If they don't you are to councel them again. Then if they still refuse to do what is right based on the Scriptures (not on opinion but the SCRIPTURES) then they are to be disfellowshipped but STILL allowed to worship in the church. They simply are no longer members and should not hold offices.

That is what 1 Corinthians is about. It amazes me how people take one piece of scripture and turn it around to fit their situation. :rolleyes:

que90nek

10-11-2001, 07:54 AM

that's why i said that "judge" was a strong word....

that was just one example of the CHURCH judging one of its members....i apologize that I am at work and unable to come up with other examples, but that is the way I was taught. A Christian understands the potential danger of judging someone...and understands that before takin the speck out of someone elses eye...they should remove the tree from their own...

tastey...are you sayin that christians should not "judge" other christians? The definition of fellowship....is in question too.

que90nek

10-11-2001, 07:56 AM

how do they know that the person is doing "immoral" things?

Tastey

10-11-2001, 08:05 AM

It's not one of God's laws for one Christians to judge another Christian.

Passing judgement on someone serves no purpose.

In 1st Corinthians Paul is writing to the church. That doesn't leave the word fellowship up for debate. He was writing the letter to the church. The church is not a building but the body of believers.

The reason Paul wrote this was because the sexual immorality was causing harm to the church as a whole. That is why Paul said that this person/persons needed to be talked to and dispelled. Not because Paul was personally judging them as evil but because of the harm being caused to the church.

You also have to take the time out to distinguish is ALL of Paul's letters...not just this one...the difference in when Paul is saying God told me to tell you this as a commandment and when Paul is saying This is what I/Paul think.

It's neccessary to fully study at length not just pull out a scripture here and there and try to interpret it. It was letter. A letter written by Paul back home to the church. It's meant to be taken in full context not just a word here or there.

God may lay it on my heart to talk to you about your lifestyle...not you personally just as an example. As a Christian I can come to you and say "Que...based on so and so scripture, what you are doing is wrong. I want to pray with you and for you so that you can grow in Christ and be a better person. Your behavior is causing harm for so and so reason. I'm not judging you...I want to help you."

But I can't get on the phone and call Sparkles and say "Child, you know Que ain't right. I'm a Christian...I can judge him."

That's not my place or my purpose as a Christian.

ThickBodyHottie

10-11-2001, 08:09 AM

in II corinthians, it states that a christian should be allowed to judge another christian, but i'd rather be judged by a non-christian that one who claims to be one, then turns around and talks about creamy juices in pussy IN PUBLIC, then claims to be one again.

Tastey

10-11-2001, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by que90nek+
how do they know that the person is doing "immoral" things?

That was the basis of our Bible Study last night. How to determine the difference in immoral and moral. And who determines immoral and moral.

In order to determine if an act is moral or immoral you have to search the scriptures. If a person is breaking God's law...they are immoral. If they are not breaking God's law...they are not.

The confusion comes in when society, custom, and tradition dictate morality.