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ThickBodyHottie
09-25-2001, 06:16 PM
is it true that a violent man is the equivalent to a nagging woman?

i mean...you all the time see a woman nagging and bitching, then the man hauls off and slaps her or something...rarely the other way around...

now, i KNOW that is not cool to do...and i am not condoning it...i just want to know what you guys think is to it? i mean, is it innate for troubled or betrayed or fed up women to bitch and men to hit?

misha
09-25-2001, 06:23 PM
In my case, my ex husband was violent whether I was bitching or not! He was violent when I was loving, when I was sick, when I was angry, whenever it suited him.

In my opinion, men that are violent are because of wanting to exert power. The same way a rapist is exerting power...just using a different weapon, is all.

ThickBodyHottie
09-25-2001, 06:27 PM
but...why is it that - USUALLY - the MAN is the one that is violent and the WOMAN is the one that bitches?

misha
09-25-2001, 06:44 PM
hmmm....I am not sure.

Toffee
09-26-2001, 04:16 AM
Because physically women are weaker than men.. So they run off at the mouth. Not thinking that their man will bitch slap their ass.

Also women are talkers by societies standards and men are all action...

SoftNwet
09-26-2001, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by Toffee+
Because physically women are weaker than men.. So they run off at the mouth. Not thinking that their man will bitch slap their ass.

Also women are talkers by societies standards and men are all action...

Toffee just ended this thread!!! That is the best explanation!!

CD
09-26-2001, 05:40 AM
I think/know that men and women have different rules, innate or learned when it comes to interacting. Men in general know there is a line that if another man crosses then be prepared to go to blows. If the shit gets to hot verbally or the other man gets to close physically and one man gets uncomfortable then one man is going to have to concede or back the phuck up, if not, then the shit is on.

Some women on the other hand don't have a glue. They tend to deal with men like they deal with other women. Hence they end up getting the cowboy shit knocked out of them. Don't get in a man's face talking shit, don't call a man out of his name, don't put your hands on him. Men should follow the same rules with regard to women unless the two of you have that type of relationship. Act like a lady and in most cases you'll be treated like a lady. Hey! its a man's world....:D

HulaSista
09-26-2001, 10:22 AM
so if we tend to deal with men like we deal with other women, AND WE SHOULDN'T...

then...

based on your explanation of the males' code of conduct and interactions...

why do those men (when they get violent) deal with women like they deal with other men? and they shouldn't?

what about...the line that is crossed when a man abuses a woman? should he then be prepared to go to blows with that woman?


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TBH, i don't know why, i just know that it is and it need to change.

djackso
09-26-2001, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by ThickBodyHottie+

i mean...you all the time see a woman nagging and bitching, then the man hauls off and slaps her or something...rarely the other way around...



Does it cross your mind that being slapped in the reaction the woman wants? The woman knows nagging & bitching will cause a physical confrontation but she does it anyway. Rarely do you see a man haul off & slap a woman without some form of verbal abuse by the woman.

dns70
09-26-2001, 10:56 AM
I know personally that I could never hit a woman. I've had some women make me very upset...VERY upset! But I could never hit them. Only if my own life or physical safety was in danger. And not just a slap or a punch from her, because how much would that really hurt me? But if she had a knife or a gun, I'd would have to protect myself.

CD
09-26-2001, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by HulaSista+
so if we tend to deal with men like we deal with other women, AND WE SHOULDN'T...

then...

based on your explanation of the males' code of conduct and interactions...

why do those men (when they get violent) deal with women like they deal with other men? and they shouldn't?

what about...the line that is crossed when a man abuses a woman? should he then be prepared to go to blows with that woman?


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TBH, i don't know why, i just know that it is and it need to change.


I'm not a srink, but I'll tell you what I think your HulaSistah, those males got problems(they get no respect when dealing with men so they make-up for it when dealing with women) or may have been exposed to such behavior while growing up.

Where else do you get the examples of: Calling women out of their name, or physically abusing them.

misha
09-26-2001, 12:47 PM
My ex husbands excuse was that he watched men beat his mom....but to me, if you saw that, why would yo do that to another person?

I know for a fact that he was and is scared to death of another man, so I know that he took it out on me.

ThickBodyHottie
09-26-2001, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by djackso+


Does it cross your mind that being slapped in the reaction the woman wants?


it has crossed my mind, but then i ask myself, "does a man really want to be nagged?"...well, do they?

Brightness
10-21-2007, 03:04 PM
Newer perspectives on this one?

I see a pretty direct correlation between these two behaviors and have even seen it go to the next level where the nagger, once they are tuned out audibly having resorted to a physical means of attack simply because the words weren't pushing the buttons or illiciting the (expected) returned aggression.

I think it's a segment that uses words to start their fight versus their fists.

I know some true verbal shit-starters....who as a way to punish themselves just say some fly shit that's going to get them decked.