Do you think American should goto war?

[FAMU]

Who other tham me, DNS and Que think that American should goto war to defend this country against terroist?

Why or why not?

[Tastey]

This country has been at war for quite a while now.

Americans may choose to believe that this all began Sept 11 but it did not. Other terrorists attacks have occurred against our Embassys even Naval ships. Attacks that were in retaliation for something America did, for missiles America launched. I'm not placing blame just saying that these people believe that they were the ones retaliating...not the ones attacking.

I'm also saddened that so many people had to die before the American public realized that they were in the midst of a war and before our leaders realized that they needed to do something.

I applaud Clinton's efforts to get Bin Laden in the past however right now he is the least of my concerns.

I see on the news all these troops heading overseas but where are the troops we need here to protect us. There are already 100's of Bin Laden supporters living and working in the US. Killing or capturing him...is that going to stop them. :confused: My prayers are that they will. :(

I also believe that in addition to the proposed military action that America needs to take a good hard look at itself and it's policies. If we are going to keep troops in Saudi, and continue to protect Israel then we need to be prepared for what other countries may do in response to that.

Again not placing blame I'm just saying that America was aware that keeping troops in Saudi, and protecting Israel was going to cause a jihad (holy war) against the US. We should have already been prepared to fight for the decisions we made. We should not have let our guard down and had 1000's killed before we realized "Hey, they mad at us" DUH! They hate what we are doing and if we feel justified in our actions...then let's act like it.

I'm wondering when these decisions were made did our leaders stop and think and say "Hey these radicals don't like our decision we need to take steps to protect our people against retaliation"

Or did they think "Hey we're American, we're big, we're bad...don't phuck with us".

It sad to say but one reason for this attack (in their eyes) was to bring American down a peg or two. :( Stop some of the arrogance this country has. We thought we could not be touched, or that no one was crazy enough to phuck with us.

Crazy is exactly what terrorist are. :rolleyes:

[seductive_tee]

I think we should strike back...hell we should have been struck back.

If we don't, they'll just think they can continue to do it and before you know it...they've taken over....

[que90nek]

truth be told...covert ops happen all the time...NOW we can go above board with them...take a few more risks!

tastey,
yes, there are terrorist here, but...if you cut off the training source...cut off the HEAD so to speak...the body will eventually die...

[Tastey]

I realize if there's no more Bin Laden and no more camps you have no more training.

However...if you close all the medical schools today...there would still be doctors for years and years and years to come. And eventually some of them would begin to teach what they know to others.

Get my point.

Also, I have a question just out of curiosity. If America gave Bin Laden what HE wants. The troops out of Saudi...and stopped assisting Israel. How would that affect us as a country?

Just curious as to your thoughts on that.

[mack_black]

Tastey...I was wondering the same thing...however we've taken a rather HARD stance and unfortunately we cant back down at this point. So its inevitable...I assume that those who want war on this board dont have Sons that are draft age...so they can't conceive of loss....I have a 20 year old son....and I'm hoping that they don't start the draft....

Everyone seems to forget that this is gonna be one long effort and as a result our economy will suffer much, much more than it is now. Prolonged war is NEVER good for any country....the only winners are the Defense Companies and their employees....today its already been said that the DOW has lost more this week than it ever had since its inception (Trillions of dollars - a number I cant even conceive of)......

[Tastey]

I have 2 17 yr old nephews who joined the service in August. One joined the Army the other joined the Marines on delayed entry. They both will graduate high school in May of 02.

I fear they both will be fighting in this war. :(

Not to mention my son is 8 and some experts say this war could drag on for as long as 10 yrs, making him suddenly of age. :(

I wish there could be a peaceful solution but I fear we've passed the point of no return. :(

[Babygirl]

Originally posted by mack_black+
Tastey...I was wondering the same thing...however we've taken a rather HARD stance and unfortunately we cant back down at this point. So its inevitable...I assume that those who want war on this board dont have Sons that are draft age...so they can't conceive of loss....I have a 20 year old son....and I'm hoping that they don't start the draft....

Everyone seems to forget that this is gonna be one long effort and as a result our economy will suffer much, much more than it is now. Prolonged war is NEVER good for any country....the only winners are the Defense Companies and their employees....today its already been said that the DOW has lost more this week than it ever had since its inception (Trillions of dollars - a number I cant even conceive of)......

Mack, I have a husband in the Marines( GOD bless him), I am dreading him coming home and telling me he is about to leave to go to war. I have 3 little boys in my care during the day..dual military families..I would hate to think of them not being able to be with their parents because they are off fighting. I have a brother in the Marines on reserve..I would hate for him to go off to war, have another brother in college..I would hate for him to be drafted. I say all of this to say: Nobody WANTS war....but I respect and agree with the fact that the United States is going to retailiate. It will be costly, but if you look at the bigger picture, I doubt our freedom and livelyhood would be compromised by a terrorist to the extreme of 9/11/01.

[Andre98]

Damn, I feel weary before I even set out to talk about this. Al that you have said in this thread is valid points.

Unfortunately, there isn't a country that can qualify has the enemy. Afganistan is ruled by an outlaw band that does not accurately represent the people at large. In this time of rage at the horrors inflicted upon all our innocents, there is an emotion within me that is dark and ugly and just wants simply to exact a body count number that is equal or greater because we are a superpower and shouldn't take any shit. If I had lost a loved one personally, I can't imagine the level of hatred I would have right now. I want Bin Laden dead, but it's inevitable that this would make him a matyr, and his followers will only go further underground, continue to recruit fresh meat, turning those with ideals similar to him into suicide warriors. It is chilling that these people are among us, and we can't weed them out unless we tramp on the rights to freedom of every average immigrant that is "in the ballpark" of ethnicity. These men are willing to die, in fact, they live among us still, with families and ate our food, drove our cars, lived the american way of life planning long term to wreak this devastation. I keep hearing them being called "cowards". There is nothing cowardly about carrying out that mission, the ones on the planes. It's insane, but it took the kind of raw guts that the U.S. military wished it had in each of it's men. The kind of passionate fever that fueled the WWII soldiers to run into the face of death at Normandy.

Its with overwelming sadness that I feel we are entering dark days, the beginning of the end, in a sense. Even if it takes 100, or 500 more years, this planet's inhabitants are going to find a way to wipe each other out.

[dns70]

War is good for an economy. After WWI, economic WWII, serious economic boom, After Gulf War, HUGE BOOM!. The only war that didn't see a boom was Vietname and that was due to the worldwide oil shortage that immediately hit following the war.

As a matter of fact, a lot conspiracy theorists toss around the thought that America always seems to find somebody to fight when the money at home ain't right.

But I do believe that war is the only option in this case. You see, these terrorists are not going to stop. They will keep going until they've destroyed America. That's why this whole "I'm black, so I ain't a real American" junk is so much crap to me. These terrorists don't care what color you are. They killed a building full of black folks in Tanzania didn't they? They killed people from their own lands in the WTC! Their children and women danced in the streets after 6,000 innocent civilians were murdered! This is a sick fascist, splinter faction of people and if it were planes this time, it'll be atom bombs next.

[SeaDuceme2]

I have mixed feelings about going to war, I mean really do we (when I say we I mean the USA) really no that Osama Bin laden is truly responsible for what happened??

Ok, so we go to war and we capture and or kill him, that is not gonna stop terrorism from these middle eastern countries, these people believe and live by a code of HONOR and DUTY they are willing and more than happy to die for there country's CAUSE...No matter what the cost!

First it was Saddam Hussein, now Osama Bin Laden, we would have to be stupid to believe there is not a successor in place to take over should these folks be eliminated.

So we send all of our military out to war and people die for what?....so american can say "yeah ya caught us sleeping the first 2 times, but we gotcha now"...BOOM!

The next time it won't be a plane, or a bomb, it will be bio-chemical and what will we do then???

[que90nek]

bio chemicals are NOT easy to produce....and contain.
the war is not against bin laden...it is againgst the alcada regime...EVIL DOERS...