Have you cried yet?-NYC/DC WTC [Archive]

OhSoPrecious

09-12-2001, 06:01 PM

I've been crying since it happened yesterday morning~!! :( I actually heard it on the radio when it just happened. . . I was on my way to work. . . I called my sister from the car to ask if she heard it. . . because she use to work at the WTC~!! (She was actually there in '93 during the bombing. . and made it out safely from the 53rd floor~!!)

She had not heard anything, but was about to turn the TV on to watch. . .

I cried so much at work, that my boss had to send me home. . . he ended up sending everybody home early. . as I imagine that most companies let employees leave early yesterday~!!

I am still crying. . . I am so emotionally disturbed by this. . . maybe because it's so close to home for me~!! :rolleyes: Not really sure. . .

My sister is still upset because she has not been able to get in touch with any of her friends that were still there~!!

This is so devastating. . .

Bright, you are so right. . . as the days go on. . . w/personal stories & pics. . . It will only get harder~!!! :(

Admin, please let us know when Mrs. Admin returns home~!!

Bedroomeyes

09-12-2001, 06:28 PM

When I was watching the family members with their pictures giving out the descriptions of their loved ones and asking if anyone has seen them to contact them....

I couldn't help it! :cry: :cry: :cry:

Toffee

09-12-2001, 06:43 PM

Like Admin I shed a tear. A tear for those dead, those missing love ones and for myself for being alive.

Tastey

09-12-2001, 09:24 PM

I haven't cried at all. Like Michelle I have not felt moved to tears.

I thought alot about my feelings on the way to work today after reading Dre's post in the original thread about this.

It's times like these when there is truly a testament of faith. I don't feel angry, I don't feel afraid. I feel sad for the families of the victims but I believe that each of us should be ready to go at anytime. This only reinforces that. I know that no matter what God is still in control.

A prominent lawyer here lost his wife to cancer Tuesday, a young friend of a co-worker was killed on a motorcycle Monday evening, my aunt is in a coma in Philadelphia she will not survive. Life and death is all around us constantly not just in this tragedy. It's kind of like the Aaliyah tragedy. As sad as it was...is one tragedy really greater than another?

I guess I'm also having a problem with this sudden surge of patriotism from a country that hates my black skin. From a country that raised over $100,000 dollars in a few moments for this tragedy and we have homeless people sleeping on the streets. From a country that watches every move of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farakkan but allowed a known Bin Laden supporter to roam across the country freely with no surveilance. From a president who stole an election now wanting me to rally behind him and support whatever decison he makes. From a country that won't admit that maybe just maybe it's foreign policy needs a 2nd look.

I'm an American and I love my country but it hasn't always loved me back. Now I'm expected to show my loyalty once again when I know that when all of this is in the history books there will still be racial profiling, there will still be homeless people, there will still be govt assisted drug trafficking, there will still be all of the other social ills and personal tragedies this country has caused. It's hard to just forget that and believe that terrorism is our ONLY concern. Sadly it's not.

I don't know maybe I'll cry later. :(

misha

09-13-2001, 12:56 AM

I spent an entire morning , trying to call NYC to check on a friend. He and I have had some words this past week, but all I could think about was his safety. I kept getting recordings that all the circuits were busy. i tried his home, his cell, and kept getting the same message. I even asked different hush fam members to try to call him, by then I was in a panic.

My last attempt, I tried sending an instant message, and about an hour later, he answered, saying that he was safe. That is when I cried. I told him that I loved him, and I let him go to get in contact with his family.

Seeing that" hey baby please don't worry, I am safe" message still makes me get weepy.

Admin

09-13-2001, 01:25 AM

You know what? To have the name Tastey....you sho iz Bitter:D. Naw, man, my questions was Hvae you cried yet (about all the innocent lives lost in NYC and DC..etc.) NOT what a cruel and harsh giv. We have or the double standards in politics.

I am older than you and I have seen mo shyt in my days than you have (sounding like Big Bro), but have you stopped and thought about if you were on one of those DOOMED planes or sitting at your desk at the WTC or Pentagon with your cup of coffee ready to start your work week and minding your own business?

That's all I'm saying man! I bet mo muvfuckas cried for Tupac, Biggie and Aaliyah than on Tuesday.

Holla:blah:

Lisa_Lisa

09-13-2001, 02:49 AM

But I've always been a crybaby. My first reaction to this tragedy was shock...then the tears came.....then nausea.....now I'm just mad as hell. Yes, people die daily but that doesn't make death any less depressing, or make me care any less. I will never get used to losing people, be it to natural causes or any tragedy.

I don't care who's in the White House, or if anyone gives a shit about me. What does any of that have to do with this???

Peace

Tastey

09-13-2001, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by admin
You know what? To have the name Tastey....you sho iz Bitter:D. Naw, man, my questions was Hvae you cried yet (about all the innocent lives lost in NYC and DC..etc.) NOT what a cruel and harsh giv. We have or the double standards in politics.

I am older than you and I have seen mo shyt in my days than you have (sounding like Big Bro), but have you stopped and thought about if you were on one of those DOOMED planes or sitting at your desk at the WTC or Pentagon with your cup of coffee ready to start your work week and minding your own business?

That's all I'm saying man! I bet mo muvfuckas cried for Tupac, Biggie and Aaliyah than on Tuesday.

Holla:blah:

Uh first of all you are NOT older than me Big Brother. But since you said it I'm gone hold you to it. ;)

Secondly I am not bitter. On the contrary my compassion is widespread. If I cried everytime something tragic happened in this country or overseas I would never stop.

As far as how would I have felt if I was one of those people. The same way I always feel. That tomorrow is not promised to any of us. I live like that all the time being on a doomed plane or office building would not change that or me. Just a few weeks ago when Aaliyah passed Dre98 reminded us ALL how precious life really is...Were we even listening? :(

I tell my family and friends I love them all the time. There's not one person whom I would have had to make things right with. There is not one regret that I have in my life and my soul is right with God regardless of what other people may think. I don't want to die...but I'm ready and I would have accepted God's decision. I could die on the way to work this morning or drop dead right now typing this. LIFE is a precious and beautiful thing but it did not take this tragedy for me to see that.

Like I said maybe I'll cry later but right now...I don't feel it. Not that I am not sad...but I'm not feeling alot of the emotions that I know other people are and I praise God for the change in my heart. Of course this is a tragedy of monumental proportions but so was every other person who died yesterday unrelated to this tragedy. I care about every situation not just this ONE.

LisaLisa how can you say it does not matter whose in the White House when your country is about to go to war? :confused: If you crying now just wait until the 1000's of servicement die because of the decisions made by those in the white house...the ones you say don't matter. Or MORE civilians die.

Just like Vietnam, and The Gulf War...it's going to be OUR black brothers and sisters on the front line because this country doesn't care about US. Believe that. That's why how my country feel about ME has everything to do with this situation.

I have friends and loved one in the military that I fear are going to die because of this situation. It not's over by a loooooong shot. Thousands of people overseas are going to lose their lives and I don't think take any pleasure in that regardless of their beliefs or their part in this. To me it's ALL tragic.

When I heard instead of crying I prayed. If that's BITTER...then BITTER I shall remain.

que90nek

09-13-2001, 05:43 AM

no i have not cried.
i almost shed a tear the other day....when this woman was givin an interview about her husband on the plane....and one of the young kids came up and asked where daddy was...

tastey i understand where u r coming from...

but the bottom line is that i feel confidant that bush is not going to make any decisions without first checking with his entire staff! other presidents may have already acted by now. also keep in mind that what the media tells you...is only about 30% of what is actually going on. i'll give the media a little credit they have been guessing pretty good....so far.

yes, ...people die everyday...but everyday we are not made to feel like our liberties are in doubt...everyday we are not made to second guess whether or not u should get on a plane (a little prop commuter plane, yes!)...everyday we SHOULD realize how precious life is...like dre said a while ago...

i wouldnt call u bitter...but...i would call u un-sympathetic.

09-13-2001, 05:46 AM

I don't know why, but I just don't feel emotional about it enough to want to cry about it. I worked in the WTC and across the street at 7WTC, now both are gone due to terrorist acts. My company moved out of the WTC after the first bomb attach in 1993.

I have road on the elevator to the 74th floor on many, many occasion to go to work. I can say it's only by the grace of god that I no longer work in the area. I was interviewing just a few months ago at the world financial center which is across the street from the old WTC. Thank god I didn't get that job.

I know for a fact that 10's of thousands of people have died, but the media does not want to give out any numbers since the total death count is going to be staggering. People that went to help, firemen, cops, and medical workers ended up being killed when the towers collapsed.

I feel bad, but not to the point of crying. I don’t know anyone personally that has lost their life, so I’m a bit disconnected from the tragedy although I know in my mind that its really bad.

Tastey

09-13-2001, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by que90nek+

i wouldnt call u bitter...but...i would call u un-sympathetic.

You know Que I'm really sorry that you feel that way.

It's really kind of funny. I say on this board all the time. What if? Show some compassion for so and so? Try to put yourself in this person's shoes? Now when all HELL has broken lose because I am dealing with it without tears I'm called BITTER and UNSYMPATHETIC. Because I realize that this situation is of a magnitude far greater than ya'll are even thinking. Because I'm looking at the BIG PICTURE instead of the one the media has thrust in our faces. LOL That's RICH INDEED.

You know what? while I'm praying...I'm gonna say a special prayer for my Hush fam. That you find the peace in this situation that I have found. That you find the understanding that I have, and that your tears are comforted.

que90nek

09-13-2001, 06:24 AM

tastey...i respect u.

your unsympathetic-ness is from the fact that u use these moments to spout out a lot of propaganda...i even thought i saw a race card or two...

there will be plenty of time for that, but some of us are still waiting to hear from friends that are possibly laying in the rubble of the pentagon. the cremation of 10000 plus individuals at the trade center...is not your everyday car accident or coma. yes, people will die...i too...am ready, but that doesnt make this any easier. how many of those people as they sat...in their offices...chatting...drinking a mocha latte...checking email...WERE READY? Doesnt that sadden you at all?

i do understand where u r coming from...but let's ...for the moment...pretend like we are a UNITED state of America...rally and unite together...let's revel in the fact that we still have our basic freedom's and liberties despite the fact that our government's foriegn policy and other policies constantly need to be tweaked....timing is sometimes everything...let's not dwell on this but begin the healing process...first by coming together...and yes, don't worry...we will eventually divide back apart like we have always been. (another topic)

Tastey

09-13-2001, 06:49 AM

First of all I've said repeatedly that I'm saddened. So don't try to give me things to say doesn't this make you sad. The whole situation makes me sad.

I don't feel about this situation the way YOU do Que. I have not criticized the way you feel I'm really getting sick of defending how I feel.

I refuse to PRETEND anything. That's not who Fakey is regardless of what popular opinion may say. :rolleyes: I have been spouting this PROPAGANDA all along but some people were too busy to listen. I said it in the thread DNS posted about the middle east...I said in the thread about Aaliyah's death but now all of a sudden it's PROPAGANDA. Whatever Que.

I am through defending my right not to feel the same way as you do. I understand everyone's tears, their rage, their whatever and I would NEVER stoop so low as they try and say I respect you BUT... I'm right and you're wrong. Again Whatever Que. I am through with this conversation.

Hell NO I ain't cried...but I don't condemn anybody that felt that needed to. Why in the HELL did I think I would be given the same consideration. :rolleyes:

que90nek

09-13-2001, 07:01 AM

tastey....i didnt mean that to offend u. (tellin u i respect u)

i understand where u r coming from.

your comparisons of this event to everyday events...boggles my mind. this event is extra ordinary!

there is no right and wrong here. i respect your opinion....i'd like to think u respect mine. period.

Tastey

09-13-2001, 07:14 AM

I have shown respect for your opinion Que. I can understand that you're right in the midst of this situation. Hell the FIRST thing I did when I heard was IM Wallisha to find if YOU QUE90NEK was okay and then you come on here and call ME of all people unsympathic where it's meant to be or not...it's offensive. Unsympathetic Tastey was worried about YOU how many times did you check on me and mine this week Que?

Admin called me bitter I believe he PM'd about the board being and BITTER Tastey said "With everything that's going on it doesn't even matter...my problems are insignificant at a time like this....now I'M BITTER. :rolleyes:

I never said this was an ordinary event but unlike MOST people I feel sadness and concern with EVERY event that's ALL I'm saying. When Americans were cheering (yes Americans) when they thought we were bombing Afghanistan I was saddened, I am saddened by the possibility of further loss of life and that sadness is increased by the fact that I realize ALOT of people are not ready, and I don't have alot of faith in George Bush. I was also saddened with the loss of life during the floods last year, and the storms and I am even sadded by the impending storm off the coast of Florida right now. My compassion is far reaching I'm sorry if you think it should be confined to this extraordinary event but it's not. I am continually praying for this situation but my prayers don't stop there. You can't make me believe they should.

Like I said earlier if I cried everytime a tragedy saddened me I'd never stop crying. What I had to learn to do was accept God's decison and turn to him for consolation, guidance, and understanding. He gives me peace. I pray that he gives you some as well.

Lisa_Lisa

09-13-2001, 07:14 AM

I respect everyone's opinions, their feelings and their right to feel the way that they do. We all handle life's ups and down differently.

Tastey, in my opinion it really doesn't matter who's in the White House. The decision to retaliate or declare full-scale war does not rest with the President. That decision lies with Congress. It doesn't matter who is in the White House one bit. The decision will be made. The President is merely our spokesperson.

I do indeed see the BIG picture, and damn it ain't pretty.

I was merely speaking on the loss of life on such a grand scale, and the turmoil that many of us feel because of it. This situation will most definitely change our lives and limit our freedom.

Peace and Love Hush Fam

Babygirl

09-13-2001, 09:02 AM

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LisaLisa how can you say it does not matter whose in the White House when your country is about to go to war? :confused: If you crying now just wait until the 1000's of servicement die because of the decisions made by those in the white house...the ones you say don't matter. Or MORE civilians die.

Just like Vietnam, and The Gulf War...it's going to be OUR black brothers and sisters on the front line because this country doesn't care about US. Believe that. That's why how my country feel about ME has everything to do with this situation.

I have friends and loved one in the military that I fear are going to die because of this situation. It not's over by a loooooong shot. Thousands of people overseas are going to lose their lives and I don't think take any pleasure in that regardless of their beliefs or their part in this. To me it's ALL tragic.

When I heard instead of crying I prayed. If that's BITTER...then BITTER I shall remain. [/B][/QUOTE]

Tastey, why are you speaking all this crap into existance????? First all what info did you gather that states the" front line" will contain only or mostly Black men and women??? Trust me, they don't go to the Commander/General and say" give me all your blacks". I get so sick of this White man's war syndrom!!! Get over it!:rolleyes: I have a husband in the military, trust me Blacks get a lot more respect in the military than YOU think. A hellava lot more than in the cilvilian world. I would hate for war to break out too, but I would be concerned for EVERYBODY!!!!!!! When we go , if we go to war..there is no color line. It really surprises me that you, as a Christian you seem to feel alot of animosity(sp) against non-Blacks. Bush is president now...unless he resigns or is killed...that's not going to change for awhile...let's move on. This situation could have happened when Clinton was in office too, so again...let's move on.

que90nek

09-13-2001, 09:11 AM

that's why i didnt want to mix an orange and an apple...
there are a lot of blacks in the army...in the marines...not nearly as many black officers as enlisted...yada yada...but all this is truly...truly besides the point.

Babygirl

09-13-2001, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by que90nek+
that's why i didnt want to mix an orange and an apple...
there are a lot of blacks in the army...in the marines...not nearly as many black officers as enlisted...yada yada...but all this is truly...truly besides the point.

What exactly was your yadda, yadda point?????? Mixing oranges and apple?? Please just say it and stop using comparisons.:rolleyes:

HulaSista

09-13-2001, 09:36 AM

tastey.....i understand what you are saying and where you are coming from. and may i add i feel a lot of the things you are saying.

i, too, am lookin at the big picture. perhaps because i have peace with God, i am able to stand back and take it all in. we have had similar tragedies here in california with earthquakes. the only difference is that, earthquakes are an ... act of nature...for lack of better terms, ... what happened on Tuesday...is an act of hatred.

this morning, my son's father said that the terrorist attacks were "in humane".....i told him that they were VERY HUMAN. Humans' are the eviliest mofos on this planet and we the ONLY one to pull crap like this.

but what you guys fail to see, there are folks out here in the grand old u s of a that really could give a flying car load of pigs what just happened.

there are so many things to take in in the last couple of days and in the coming months.....even years. this appears to be perhaps the 3rd war we have seen / will soon witness in OUR generation. (correct me if i am wrong) What does that say?

no need to get mad.....call folks bitter.....or un sympathetic.....what happened on Tuesday was out of bitterness and TOTALLY unsympathetic. Those words don't even describe what its going on now.

Tastey

09-13-2001, 09:57 AM

Go look up yourhistory. In BOTH Vietnam and Saudi blacks were the majority sent to the front lines. Now I don't know if there is an order to do this...I just know it was done. Regardless of ALL the respect you feel that blacks are given in the military it was STILL done.

I'm only concerned that it doesn't happen again if you don't want to be concerned don't be but don't have the gall to try and tell me what to be concerned about or who to pray for. Obviously if you had taken the time to read my WHOLE post you would have seen I am CONCERNED with EVERYONE.

The only thing I don't UNDERSTAND is the need to attack me because you don't agree. I'm sorry that you are hurting, that's why I'm praying so that your hurt doesn't escalate. If that's a crime convict my BITTER, UNSYMPATHETIC, PROPOGANDA, CRAP SPEAKING ASS! :fu

Tastey

09-13-2001, 10:25 AM

Reminds of the episode of Good Times when James died.

Thelma, Michael, and JJ were all mad because Florida had not cried. They didn't accept her explanation that death was a celebration. They remained angry because they wanted her to feel and react the way that they felt and were reacting.

When in actuality no one knew what Florida was feeling but Florida.

Who would have thought a 70's sitcom could so closely mirror life. :rolleyes:

que90nek

09-13-2001, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Babygirl+

What exactly was your yadda, yadda point?????? Mixing oranges and apple?? Please just say it and stop using comparisons.:rolleyes:

easy easy ...sistah....what i said earlier was that talkin about various "propaganda" and this tragedy in the same sentence is like mixing apples and oranges. do u need further clarification?

que90nek

09-13-2001, 10:36 AM

well...
tastey...your short answer was No, you havent cried.

but your reasoning....is what i found...ummm...interesting. something about blacks on the front line, going to war, yada yada....

i understand where u r coming from...once again.

Tastey

09-13-2001, 10:58 AM

Maybe you need to go back and re-read my original post. I said I had examined my feelings and this was some of the things I was feeling.

I was met with being bitter, being unsympathetic, spouting propaganda, speaking trash into existence...simply because of how Tastey is feeling. Because you and some others are not feeling it it's somehow not appropriate to feel that way. :confused:

I find your reasoning equally as interesting...this WHOLE tragedy has affected me very little...but I have not diminished how you or anyone else is feeling right now and it's insulting, and hurtful that so many people feel the need and the right to diminish what I feel.

Oh and since you missed it Que...my reasoning for not crying was because I believe God is in control and I am trusting him in a scary situation.

The other things are things that I am also concerned with. So sorry to trouble you with my mundane concerns. Get on with the more important and appropriate people's feelings.

I won't bother you with mine anymore.

I take it all back.

My new answer:

No I have not cried...I have no further comment.

que90nek

09-13-2001, 11:19 AM

u r confusing me ms tastey.

u r entitled to feel and believe whatever u like....

nobody is tryin to take that away from you...period.

AGAIN...i understand where u r coming from...I just find it interesting, is all.
Can i do that? find it interesting? Geez...

i too have not cried. and i too know that God has it all under control...but let me ask u this...If somebody cut your arm off...would u feel pain...even though u know God has it all under control? Just curious :rolleyes:

maybe u do need to cry ...u seem awfully sensitive today :blah:

p.s. notice...no bold print.

Tastey

09-13-2001, 11:30 AM

I believe it was YOU Que who called me un-sympathetic. I also believe it was YOU who said thinking about that now was inappropriate, that we should just be UNITED. I respect that and did not say ONE WORD about it. But you have repeatedly made comments about what I was saying. I believe you said we shouldn't mix apples and oranges.

I am feeling pain now Que, I know that you cannot understand that but just because I handle it differently does not mean I didn't feel it. I don't expect you to understand my faith...although I sincerly wish you did.

If I feel the need to cry I will...but when my name is repeatedly called out with words such as bitter, unsympathetic, spouting propaganda, speaking trash into existence I don't feel I'm being sensitive.

How many times was YOUR name or anyone else's for that matter called out with such insulting words?? :rolleyes:

seductive_tee

09-13-2001, 11:34 AM

No i haven't...maybe when i actually ride past the Pentagon, it'll hit me

que90nek

09-13-2001, 11:36 AM

insulting?
no body is intending to insult you.

my opinion (everybody's got one) was that you were being unsympathetic...and that u were spewing propaganda...and by propaganda...the black person on the frontline...the race cards...etc...again...my opinion.
i apologize that you took offense to that...that you took it personally.

i still luv ya like a play cousin ;)

let's go eat some mo cheesecake!

RaiOfSunshine

09-13-2001, 11:50 AM

I am sad enough to cry, but too angry not to.

Tastey

09-13-2001, 11:52 AM

If you want cheesecake you'll have to come here. There is no way I'm going anywhere near our nation's capital at this time. ;)

que90nek

09-13-2001, 12:04 PM

i gotta find out my brothers court date...
i may be comin down...

hopefully the airlines have a SALE!

CLSmooove

09-13-2001, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Tastey+
how Tastey is feeling. Because you and some others are not feeling it it's somehow not appropriate to feel that way. :confused:

I find your reasoning equally as interesting...this WHOLE tragedy has affected me very little...but I have not diminished how you or anyone else is feeling right now and it's insulting, and hurtful that so many people feel the need and the right to diminish what I feel.

You know what Tastey I TOTTALY UNDERSTAND what you are feeling right now.....Its Kinda Like I was feeling when you dogged me about not being sympathetic to Mariah Scary and her breakdown.....

Sound familiar hmmmmmmm?????

Vronni

09-13-2001, 03:07 PM

I have cried several times. I cry at Hallmark commercials,so this definetely hit me hard. It's so sad thinking of people hopping on a plane for a simple flight and never making it home, some calling their loved ones to say goodbye. I hate to think of what they suffered before they passed,or the people in the Pentagon or the WTC. I have relatives in NY that I haven't even talked to and I know that others are probably going throught the same thing. I just keep praying because this is so horrible it's almost unreal.

Tastey

09-13-2001, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by CLSmooove+

You know what Tastey I TOTTALY UNDERSTAND what you are feeling right now.....Its Kinda Like I was feeling when you dogged me about not being sympathetic to Mariah Scary and her breakdown.....

Sound familiar hmmmmmmm?????

Not at all. I neither called you unsympathetic or dogged you. I believe my exact words were "Put yourself in her shoes...you said you felt no sympathy whatsoever...I have repeatedly said that I am praying for these people that I am concerned for these people as well as others around the world...not that I didn't care...as YOU stated YOU didn't care. I have been accused of not caring...you on the other hand didn't care. That's a hell of alot different.

I didn't even say you were wrong not to care just that I thought maybe you should.

Because even as unsympathetic as your words were regarding Mariah...I never called you that. I never called you Bitter and I never tried to say you didn't care while you repeated over and over that you did.

The reason it's insulting to be called unsympathetic or bitter or speaking crap into existence is because I am extremely sympathetic of this situation. I feel no bitterness towards anyone and the ONLY reason I mentioned our black servicemen is because I care about them too. I didn't realize so many people would take offense to me caring. :confused:

My words were in regards to you not caring not trying to say you didn't care when you really did.

As usual you have no idea how I'm feeling.

And as usual simple comments have been taken out of context and made into a confrontation for no reason.

But of course that's the way of The Hush.

CLSmooove

09-13-2001, 06:07 PM

And as usual Tastey you have taken what I said the wrong way....

I never said YOU said you didnt care.... Maybe YOU need to read my reply again....So that whole reply to me was a waste of your time..... Cause you are defending somethng that wasnt even said by me....

I only said now you know what it feels like to be told your opionion is WRONG just like you did me.... When in fact everyone is entitled to feel what they feel about any situaton...

Also there is no contfrontation here..... not from me... But it seems to me that you were quick to tell me I was wrong (whether you used those words or not it still came out the same)for my opinion about her but when someone says the same to you you get so highly pissed off about it.....I didnt put you down for your opinion because frankly I dont care.... Your feelings about this tragedy wont change mine.....

And contrary to what you said, I DO KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BECAUSE YOU MADE ME FEEL THE SAME WAY....

Its called a difference of opinion... no one is right or wrong..... AND THAT IS THE WAY OF THE HUSH

OhSoPrecious

09-13-2001, 06:13 PM

In the midst of it all. . . we are still blessed~!!

Tastey

09-13-2001, 06:41 PM

Okay CL if you know how I feel why did you just post all that?

You posted because you think you know how I feel and frankly you are wrong! DEAD wrong! If you had any idea how I was feeling you would not have posted ANY of that. But since you believe that you do you wanna tell me what I'm feeling. Ain't that a b*tch.

I disagreed with you CL, I NEVER said your opinion was wrong, I NEVER insulted you...Maybe you need to go back and read that whole thread because you chose to take my disagreement personally and decide that I said you were wrong even though if you go back and read the thread you will see that I said "You have a right not to care I'm not asking you to care" I also said "Whether you are care or not is solely up to you CL" I guess you don't remember that part do you? Of course you don't because if you did you'd have to admit that I NEVER tried to tell you your opinion was WRONG I simply disagreed with it. There's a BIG DIFFERENCE.

This thread was not about opposing opinions on the attack it was about feelings and whether those feelings had made a person cry. Everyone has a right to your opinions but what gives anyone the right to question my feelings. I didn't question anyone wanting to cry or feeling angry or enraged or whatever but I had several people question me not wanting to cry, question me feeling for black servicemen, question me feeling God is in control. Who the phuck is anyone of you to tell me how to FEEL...not to disagree with me but tell me I can't feel a certain way. It's apples and oranges, you are speaking crap into existance.
My words were called propoganda, I was accused of being bitter, and unsympathetic. That's not disagreeing with an opinion that's discounting my feelings. Saying that I have no right to be concerned with what I'm concerned with. It's also calling me something that I am not.

This situation is totally different and if you felt I said your opinion was wrong it was because you failed to read the entire posts because I said repeatedly that you had a right to feel exactly as you felt. I said it repeatedly CL go back and read it...you CL chose to ignore that part of my posts. That's on YOU.

Lastly I am not pissed off because anyone said I was wrong. People say I'm wrong on here and in private AIM Hush meeting all the time. Who cares?

I am hurt because in a nutshell all I said was I have not cried, I am sad, I am concerned for our black soilders, and I don't trust George Bush. That's ALL I PHUCKING said but I have been falsely accused of alot worse.

CL I never accused you of anything. Do you know how it feels to be told over and over that you are something and feel something that you are not? When did I do that to you?

Que I know you already apologized and I still accept that but it was extremely hurtful to be called unsympathetic by the first person I checked on in this tragedy. UNSYMPATHETIC?

The person who immediately sent up prayers, phone calls, and e-mails to the Hush Fam to check on people was called BITTER simply because I'm also praying for other people in other situations that although not as tragic...they are tragedies and concerns just the same.

The person who has been praying about this whole Mid-Eastern situation and the possibility of war for months after reading DNS thread, the books he, TBH, and Hula suggested was told "I don't know anything about how black men are respected in the military, I have no right to say that black men served on the front lines (even though they did) that I have no right to be concerned for their safety (by a military wife no less) WTF?

I've even been told that tomorrow instead of wearing red white and blue I'm going to wear red/green/black. I don't even know what those colors stand for. :confused: but suddenly I'm some kind of militant because I don't want to see a black man die. WTF?

That's hurtful CL and I sincerly hope that no one you care about ever accuses you of not caring when you've done all you can to show them that you do. If that does happen then and only then will you have any idea of how I am feeling.

Babygirl

09-13-2001, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Tastey+
Go look up yourhistory. In BOTH Vietnam and Saudi blacks were the majority sent to the front lines. Now I don't know if there is an order to do this...I just know it was done. Regardless of ALL the respect you feel that blacks are given in the military it was STILL done.

I'm only concerned that it doesn't happen again if you don't want to be concerned don't be but don't have the gall to try and tell me what to be concerned about or who to pray for. Obviously if you had taken the time to read my WHOLE post you would have seen I am CONCERNED with EVERYONE.

The only thing I don't UNDERSTAND is the need to attack me because you don't agree. I'm sorry that you are hurting, that's why I'm praying so that your hurt doesn't escalate. If that's a crime convict my BITTER, UNSYMPATHETIC, PROPOGANDA, CRAP SPEAKING ASS! :fu

IS it safe to ASSume the :fu was meant for me?? Or everyone that doesn't agree with you??? I don't see where I had "the gall"(btw, good word!) to tell you who to be concerned about or who to pray for. I did indeed read, and reread your post . I didn't attack you... you came with :fu childishness. But notheless Gina/Gena (not sure how you spell it) having me and mine in your prayers is much appreciated, and could you please direct me to where you found your info of Blacks on the front line during Vietnam and The Gulf War please, I'd like to read it.

Babygirl

09-13-2001, 07:48 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tastey+

. It's apples and oranges, you are speaking crap into existance.
**I said you were speaking crap into exsitance because YOU said:1. We are going to war: you don't know that. 2. Black men and women are going to die on the front line. It's in the Bible about speaking things into existance..I'm sure you are familiar.

I am hurt because in a nutshell all I said was I have not cried, I am sad, I am concerned for our black soilders, and I don't trust George Bush. That's ALL I PHUCKING said but I have been falsely accused of alot worse.

**Tastey What about ALLL soliders..not just Blacks??? They are ALL human!

The person who immediately sent up prayers, phone calls, and e-mails to the Hush Fam to check on people was called BITTER simply because I'm also praying for other people in other situations that although not as tragic...they are tragedies and concerns just the same.

**Hmm.. maybe I was out and missed my call, email, IM???

The person who has been praying about this whole Mid-Eastern situation and the possibility of war for months after reading DNS thread, the books he, TBH, and Hula suggested was told "I don't know anything about how black men are respected in the military, I have no right to say that black men served on the front lines (even though they did) that I have no right to be concerned for their safety (by a military wife no less) WTF?

**Hmm. I don't recall saying you ddint know about how Blacks are treat in the military..I merly made a statement about it. I didn't say you didn't have right to say Blacks didn't serve on the front line either. I think I asked you were you got your info from. And if I wasn't a military wife..I would still have the same opinion.

que90nek

09-13-2001, 08:20 PM

i thought this was squashed!

my statement about you being unsympathetic was my opinion and my perception of the words that u put down in response to the question. i apologized that you took offense to my perception of u.

u continue on with this discussion...if it makes u feel good.

at this point the convo has degenerated........beyond repair.

CLSmooove

09-14-2001, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by CLSmooove+
I never said YOU said you didnt care.... Maybe YOU need to read my reply again....So that whole reply to me was a waste of your time..... Cause you are defending somethng that wasnt even said by me....

(whether you used those words or not it still came out the same)

What the hell did I say..... I HAVE not now or ever said that what you feel is WRONG,... other people have.... NOT CL....

So that whole LONGGGGGGGG ASSSSSS reply going off means shit to me....

Whether you believe it or not it is EXACTLY how u made me feel... and you cant tell me how to feel either.... so DAMN I DO AGREE with you.....

Exert your energy on those that said you were bitter or unsympathetic.... cause It wasnt me.....

Tastey

09-14-2001, 03:25 AM

If you do a search on the net on The Vietnam or Saudi Wars it will bring you up the statistics. You can also check with any library for a book on the history of those 2 wars.

Also I check on the Hush fam members that I knew were in NY/DC/ and that area...Did you move again Babygirl?

Even if you didn't I posted minutes after it happend that I was praying for the WHOLE Hush fam especially those in major cities. It's under CD original thread about this since you missed it.

And since that Bible says that we speak things into existence and you are holding on to that belief get prepared because alot worse prophesies have been spoken on this board since that tragedy than "black men will be on the front line."

Everyone is naturally going to more concerned for their own. Although you may be concerned for ALL soilders I'm sure you are MORE concerned with YOUR HUSBAND because that's your own. I said in my posts that I am concerned not only with the Americans but with the Arabs, as well as the victims of homelessness, and other social tragedies, the victims of the storms, and the tropical storm brewing off the coast of Florida. My WHOLE post was about the fact that I am concerned for more than just this situation therefore if I cried over everything and every situation I'd never stop crying then you come and ask "Do I care about the OTHER soilders too" :confused: Have I not been saying for 2 days that I am concerned with EVERYONE in this tragedy. Simply because I am also concerned for my OWN (just like everybody else) does not mean I am NOT concerned for anyone else.

As far as who came at who...your post was quoting me...your first words were "Who are you to say...

To answer the question I'm Tastey. Who are YOU to say any of what you said? You are Babygirl and as much right as you had to say what you said...so did I.

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CL I didn't say YOU said that...I said the situations were different therefore although you may believe I feel a certain way and that's how YOU felt. That is NOT how I'm feeling now.

You felt that I was saying your OPINION was wrong.

I don't feel that anyone is saying my OPINION is wrong.

Can you see the difference now?

I made reference to the difference in what was said to ME vs what what said to YOU. I never attributed any of it to YOU.

And I'm not telling you what to feel I'm simply saying that what you are feeling is NOT the same thing as what I'm feeling. The fact that you are insistant it is further illustrates that you don't understand what I'm feeling.

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Que, my only point in mentioning that was to point out the differences in the 2 situations that CL was comparing. The reason I preceded it with I know you've apologized and I accept that was so you would know that I know you apologized and I accept that

The ONLY reason I continue with the conversation is that everytime I explain what I'm really feeling vs what people think I'm feeling I come back and someone ELSE has called my name.

I explained my feelings to Admin...then YOU called my name. I explained to you and squashed...then Babygirl called my name....then I explain to her and CL calls my name.

4 people have called my name and I've answered. If no one else calls my name...I won't answer again.

que90nek

09-14-2001, 06:29 AM

TASTEY

TASTEY

TASTEY

*bracing for impact*

Tastey

09-14-2001, 06:47 AM

I thought Mrs Que90nek told you to stop calling out my name over and over. ;)

LOL :p

:upretty

Bedroomeyes

09-14-2001, 06:59 AM

Can't we all just get along?!? :rolleyes: :D

RaiOfSunshine

09-14-2001, 08:51 AM

There is no need to be arguing over something childish such as this. I think this is the time to be thankful that we're alive and our loved ones are OK. This is also the time to pray for those who were victimized by this terrible tragedy.

I just hope you just dead it right now.:(

seductive_tee

09-15-2001, 06:35 AM

My tears finally started to shed while in the car yesterday. I was listening to the radio and Whitney Houston's song "All at Once" was played. If ya'll have it, listen to it.

That song was what hit me, like Whitney sung, "Then it finally hit me, all at once". At that moment i felt for those that were grieving for those that were lost or dead. I can not imagine what they are feeling.

Watching the news is also so touching. Listening to some of these people and just watching them cry is starting to affect me.

Then to get up this morning and here the President say "those that wear the uniform to get ready" and to hear that Pakistan has agreed to ALL of the US terms, has me and my heart worried that there are friends i may never see again. Especially my best friend Jody. I know he's headed out to sea and just the thought of him possibly never saying my name again is killing me. He says i fuss with him so much about a few things and i do, but it's because i love him and i worry about him. He's promised he'll keep in touch as much as possible and i know he will if he can.

So many of my friends will probably get called, including so of the HUSH fellas. my friends at GTBF.

Everyone's life is about to change.

They need to go pull some of those criminals out of jail and take them to war to fight. Hell some of them got good experience at killing and shooting folks. Don't need training the first. Probably shoot better than some military folks.

Ok, now i'm getting angry, so i'll stop.