To: HUSH PUNKS

[que90nek]

Dear Hush PUNK,

Stop pm'n me complaining about stuff on the hush. Stop voicing your opinion in pm's. Quit acting like a lil BIA BIA!!! A lil SCARED BIA! If you are scared of somebody on the hush, what does that have to do with you voicing your opinion? If you are scared of a hush entity...an online persona....how are you in real life? Are you scared of your boss...your co-worker?

HP, I am just disappointed. I am just frustrated that your thoughts are being squelched by the phantom hush person...you cry "I don't want to be confrontational" but at the same time you pm people what you really thought. I want you to know how sorry that really looks!

PM to que: Yeah...that post that you did about X...well...yeah...I think that X is stupid...etc etc....

PM from que: ok...do you not feel like someone would benefit from the words that you just said? I mean why are you even on a bulletin board!?! you might as well come on here...get some email addy's and just email back and forth...we could do that too.


Ok...i feel better now.

sincerely,
que

p.s. i still luv ya though.

[Tastey]

Que you need a whupping for this one. Just wait....you gone get yours. :beating

I think that if a person chooses to be non-confrontational that does not make them a punk.

Especially when you have folks who troll the boards looking for confrontation

you have folks who base personal opinions on hush replies

you have folk who can't stand or don't like someone they've never met because of hush replies

you have folk whose reply is based solely on the topic starter rather than the topic

you have folks who jump on band wagons and attack or defend based on not what they think...but what the majority thinks

In my opinion...those are the true Hush punks because they have no convictions, and they don't stand for anything but what their friend stands for at the moment.

I am true believer that if you don't STAND for something, you will FALL for anything. :blah:

[que90nek]

i understand non-confrontational.

i think there are hush members that "troll" looking to ask questions and looking to encourage folks to look at the other side of situations. this is NOT confrontation...but i'd like to see it as collaboration. we should be able to EXCHANGE ideas....i may not like your opinion but i am better now that i know a different side....knowledge IS power...

[Tastey]

I know that you enjoy digging deeper okay?

But it took me a while of being on this board to understand that.

The same as I know Soft...is as soft as her name is.

But it took me a while to see that.

Sooooooo...

did I used to be Hush punk because I chose not to confront people until I better understood them...

I think not.

[que90nek]

confront?

hell, just give a fuggin opinion. who can fault you for that?

if u don't have an opinion...just keep bleating ("bah" "bah")and read the next.

[Tastey]

Because some people interpret opposing opinions as confrontations.

Because some people further take those opposing opinions as personal dislikes of the poster.

Because some people are here to get their post on...while others are trying to make friends.

I personally believe you can do both...some people don't.

[que90nek]

great...
let's all just think alike.
let's all have same opinion.
if you have a different opinion...keep it to yourself.
yes, yes....you have a different opinion...that means u hate me...that means u hate me and now i must die.... :cry:
relationships cause the demise of GOOD HUSH...of good discussion...which has BOTH sides!


There are sheep, shepherds, and wolves....which one are you!

let me add one more....there are the little bugs that ride on the sheep....they are the worst!

[Tastey]

CTFU!!!!

[seductive_tee]

Don't nobody PM me......:( :( :(

I feel so left out.....:( :cry: :cry:

[SoftNwet]

1.......as long as Que and me are fussing and cussing and carrying on it is seen as entertainment but as soon as it is anyone else then I got to be scaring people!!

2.......and the funny thing is that there are post out there that need to be addressed and people will say......."I wanna see what Soft is gonna say " or "I will let Soft get them"

3.......You must admit that I have been and equal-opportunity blaster any one that needs it gets it........You included!!

I also understand non-confrontational, as well as the next person, but come on are we dealing with college educated adults or some elemetary school kids with DSL!?!? What is there to understand? On a message board we all are equal, we are all equipped/armed with a keyboard, monitor, mind, and opinion.....so why is one persons equipment more threatening than others!?!? You all should know that after over 5000 posts that with me what comes up come out.......and after that I am through with it. But I love a good debate.........Notice I said debate and not agrument.........
American Heritage Dictionary definition of
Debate:To engage in an argument by discussing opposing points.
as opposed to agrue
Argument: A discussion in which disagreement is expressed: a quarrel, a dispute

Now when I debate with some one it is with opposing points, it may or may not result in an argument but differing opinions is what makes this world go around. And lilke Que said initially
If you are scared of a hush entity...an online persona....how are you in real life? Are you scared of your boss...your co-worker?

So come on.........do like NWA said and Express Yourself!!

[Tastey]

You are who you are...no one is asking you to change.

However...when I confronted you yesterday one of the things you said was "my friend ( and I use that term loosely)" as if to imply that somehow because I disagreed with your handling of DNS my friendship was now questionable.

If somehow the times we've hung out, spoke on the phone, or in IM or PM were just diminished down to that one post. :confused:

Now, everyone can't take what Tastey can take...some of them even leave the board over it...but when you say things like that it gives the implication that if I don't agree with Soft she won't be my friend...and alot people desire to be your friend...so rather than confront you and risk that...they act skurred.

I don't agree with them being scared...but I do understand.

[SoftNwet]

How you gonna consider us friends I have seen you once and then you would not even talk to me..............so when you say that you are getting PMs about me it makes me think that you are in agreement with the PMs and you are the spokes person.

[Tastey]

You think I'm in agreement with the PM's?

Hmmm...what did the PM's say?

I am scared of Soft because she's mean

or

I want Soft to like me so I'm not gonna post an opposing position to hers

or

I like Soft, but I don't agree with what she just said

Which one do Iagree with? Hmmm.

By the way I considered you my friend because when I had a problem you were there for me, and when you needed someone I was there for you...NOT because of what goes on on this board.

Guess I was wrong. :rolleyes:

[mystkev]

For some it's hard to post an opinion that's in opposition to the majority, they may feel that they may be attacked. Sometimes when people have differing views it can go on and on, maybe that person isn't willing to deal w/the drama or is not willing to debate.

If you have such a problem w/them pm'ing you, just say I don't want you pm'ing w/this, I'm sure they'll understand

[SoftNwet]

If you take dirt....you will bring dirt.

If you are getting all these PMs then you should let them know like I said before........that Softs bark is worse than her bite but, to keep going on and on with them in PM does make me wonder WTF is really being said on both sides!!

And the ones that think I am mean or I don't like them, or disageee with me then thatn is on them. They must not see the times that I have given word of encouragement, laughed with people, dug up some old funny thread or any of the positive. So if they wanna dwell on the times that I have snapped, gone off, or said what they were scared to say then who am I to change them. They will think what they want, they will still PM you and you can continue to support them in their fears.

And if you notice....I have not changed...I have always been this way. I do not hold back from any one. Nobody can ever say that I pick on one more than the other. But my question to you is.......What bug crawled up your butt?????? Any other time you be PMing me with "high fives" and "you go girls" and now all of a sudden you got a problem with Soft.

[14KBlaqWmn]

Regardless of whether you agree with the majority or not, speak your mind. We're all adults here. Maybe your thoughts can enlighten someone else. We'll never know or be able to respect your opinion if we don't know what it is.

[CD]

Why do these people feel that they can pm you with that weak shyt?

Those folks that got to pm you to say what they think can't express themselves. They are inhibited, mind you in more ways than one.

[CLSmooove]

Originally posted by CD+
Why do these people feel that they can pm you with that weak shyt?

Those folks that got to pm you to say what they think can't express themselves. They are inhibited, mind you in more ways than one.

I totally agree with you CD....

For the life of me i cannot understand how someone could be "Scared" to post their own opinion because of one person.... This is a MESSAGE board and this isnt the first time we've had this discussion....

If ya got something to say sayit..... if you dont want too say it then dont go and PM another person about it.... shit always gets started that way.... Cause you always have certain folks that will use it to try to get some kind of leverage on another person....

Get over the fear already and be a MAN/WOMAN and let it be known to that person or just dont say anything at all.....

Damn is that so hard to do :confused: :hammer

[Tastey]

Hush concern:
We have folks who are hesitant to post because they feel intimidated.

Solution:
Let's call them punks, weak, and inhibited. That will surely ease their minds about further posting.

Wow...why didn't I think of that. :rolleyes:

[Mocha]

Stop being a Hush PUNK!!!!

That letter had me rolling my ass off!

Also I understand non-confrontational but don't run talking shit to somebody else...you turned it a HUSH PUNK! (I like that). Usually a person who don't want drama don't say shit...they just leave it alone. That is the difference!

[que90nek]

yeah

i apologize...this certainly is counter-productive.

which is why most of this for me has been "tongue in cheek."

maybe by pointing out how absurd it sounds....maybe that will piss them off enough to post their opinion.

i can say that i havent received ONE pm today!


constructive criticism is better...but i just had to get it off my chest...i'll be nice later. :hushhug:

[14KBlaqWmn]

Originally posted by Tastey+
Hush concern:
We have folks who are hesitant to post because they feel intimidated.

Solution:
Let's call them punks, weak, and inhibited. That will surely ease their minds about further posting.

Wow...why didn't I think of that. :rolleyes:
We just calling it how we see it.

[Tastey]

Originally posted by que90nek+
yeah

i apologize...this certainly is counter-productive.

which is why most of this for me has been "tongue in cheek."

maybe by pointing out how absurd it sounds....maybe that will piss them off enough to post their opinion.

i can say that i havent received ONE pm today!


constructive criticism is better...but i just had to get it off my chest...i'll be nice later. :hushhug:

All you've done is broke the trust the people who PM'd you had hence...no PM's today. :rolleyes:

I agree that people should not feel intimidated but ya'll know that the Hush is full of some very intimidating people. Full of them.

I talk more sh*t that a little bit...always have...but people don't FEAR me, they don't feel INTIMIDATED by me, and they are not afraid to tell me what they think.

I always tell them "you should post how you feel" but I would NEVER stoop to low rating them simply because they are not as comfortable doing so as I am.

That is not only counter-productive...it's insulting.

[CLSmooove]

Originally posted by Tastey+
Hush concern:
We have folks who are hesitant to post because they feel intimidated.

Solution:
Let's call them punks, weak, and inhibited. That will surely ease their minds about further posting.

Wow...why didn't I think of that. :rolleyes:

But most of Us wouldnt Have known this fact if it werent for you and Que telling us it is so.....

Its not a Hush Conccern..... Its a personal issue..... That was discussed between u and whoever and it should have stayed that way.....

You cannot say we are wrong in our "solutions".... which in FACT are our own opinions....

[Tastey]

When did I say you were wrong?

Reread it CL. I didn't say anybody was right or wrong...I too stated how I felt.

MY OPINION
Is that it is counterproductive.

MY OPINION
Is that it furthers allienates people.

No where did I state MY OPINION was right...and YOUR OPINION was wrong.

:rolleyes:

[CD]

Originally posted by Tastey+
Hush concern:
We have folks who are hesitant to post because they feel intimidated.

Solution:
Let's call them punks, weak, and inhibited. That will surely ease their minds about further posting.

Wow...why didn't I think of that. :rolleyes:

You speak as though the folks on this board should go outta their way to make folks feel at ease. I didn't put any thought or effort into making them punks, weak or inhibited in the first place. They came to the board like that. Soooo I don't think I will put any thought or effort into putting their minds at ease.

I hope i'm not being confrontational, but if I come off that way to someone that is weak or inhibited..... :fu

[CLSmooove]

Gaaaat Damn Gurl...will you calm the fuck down and stop taking everything so damn personnaly..... Jeezzzzz

My statement wasnt meant as YOU the person.... it was meant as YOU the entity that is afraid to speak or afraid of someone.....

Jesus who pissed in your wheaties this morning.... :confused:


Originally posted by Tastey+
When did I say you were wrong?

Reread it CL. I didn't say anybody was right or wrong...I too stated how I felt.

MY OPINION
Is that it is counterproductive.

MY OPINION
Is that it furthers allienates people.

No where did I state MY OPINION was right...and YOUR OPINION was wrong.

:rolleyes:

[Tastey]

I'm going there because I don't agree with you.

I think that just as you have the right to be who you are, and not be called an asshole, overbearing, or just plain mean.

They have the right to be who they are without being called punks or weak.

Now if that's what you want to call them...you got a keyboard..go for what you know, but don't expect me to agree with it, condone it, or watch it without comment.

[Tastey]

Originally posted by CLSmooove+
You cannot say we are wrong in our "solutions".... which in FACT are our own opinions....

Maybe you didn't read what you posted.

Again...I didn't say your were wrong.

Does that clear it up without it "seeming" as if I'm taking things personal...which by the way...I'm not.

[Tastey]

Just like in this thread when you disagree with folks and you are alone in your opinion you have to battle several people at once.

Not wanting to...or not being able to does not make you a punk.

Tastey is just a ballsy b*tch! LOL :p

[CLSmooove]

WTF of course i read what i posted and i know what i meant.....

U aint taking things personal but u sure do respond with a quickness.....

Originally posted by Tastey+


Maybe you didn't read what you posted.

Again...I didn't say your were wrong.

Does that clear it up without it "seeming" as if I'm taking things personal...which by the way...I'm not.

[Tastey]

Originally posted by CLSmooove+
WTF of course i read what i posted and i know what i meant.....

U aint taking things personal but u sure do respond with a quickness.....



Yeah, work is slow...I left my book at home. :D

Maybe I should go PM Que...rather than posting...LOL :p

[HulaSista]

Tastey.... in my best Michael Jackson voice......

"you are not alone".......

[CD]

Originally posted by Tastey+
I'm going there because I don't agree with you.

I think that just as you have the right to be who you are, and not be called an asshole, overbearing, or just plain mean.

They have the right to be who they are without being called punks or weak.

Now if that's what you want to call them...you got a keyboard..go for what you know, but don't expect me to agree with it, condone it, or watch it without comment.

I'm not a name caller. If I use those terms it's always done in gerneral. If folks are concern so much about what somebody is going to say or how someone is going to react then why are they here????

I could get rocks in my jaw with the adjectives you used to discribe me, but I know that I'm all those things and more from time to time. That's just me...:D but the reality is it's just a board, and they should take the opprtunity to lean how to express themselves regardless of how others take it...excuse me that's just my opinion.

:D :D :D :D

[Tastey]

I agree they should feel comfortable posting. I don't think anyone has to coddle or make them feel more comfortable...but...I don't agree with name calling.

Those names weren't meant for you...just examples.

We still on for the foot massage right? ;)

[FAMU]

Well, this is my take. I think the concept of the hush punk is very valid. There are people here that just do not want to get caught up in all the drama that can unfold here on the hush. Are people scared to say anthing? I don't think so. I just feel that they have opinions that are similar to what somebody else that is already in the discussion has and they do not feel the need to throw fuel on the fire. In other words, they feel no need to co-sign.

I do feel that there is a need to belong on the hush. Why do I feel this way? Make no mistakes about it, there are cliques on the hush. The only problem is that these cliques are on the down low and it is hard to tell exactly who is with who. However, if you want to get an idea of who is with who then go back through this thread and see who co-sign for who. :rolleyes:

[djackso]

Just say my name right. People will always have an opinion & some things do need to be said in private.

[HulaSista]

Originally posted by Mr. Famu+
However, if you want to get an idea of who is with who then go back through this thread and see who co-sign for who. :rolleyes:

that was cute famu... check your pm

[CD]

Originally posted by Tastey+
I agree they should feel comfortable posting. I don't think anyone has to coddle or make them feel more comfortable...but...I don't agree with name calling.

Those names weren't meant for you...just examples.

We still on for the foot massage right? ;)


You phucked me up over here and now you want to rub my feet...ha,ha,ha...

I don't agree with name calling either, on a personal level..

[FAMU]

Originally posted by HulaSista+
that was cute famu... check your pm

Ummm, I could be wrong here, but this statement above has a sort of a hush punkish feel to it:rolleyes: I mean why would I need to check my pm:confused:

[HulaSista]

I think the point of this thread was that folks should not be afraid to voice their opinion to whom ever and HOWEVER they please.

Just because I choosed to cuss your ass out in PRIVATE doesn't make me a punk. Makes me respectful of your punk ass.....;)

[FAMU]

Hula, I respect you too, but the mere fact that you could not say what you had to say to me on the board infront of people makes you the punk and not me cause whateva I got to say about you or anybody else you best belive me I will say where everybody can see it. So before you sit down at your PC and call me a punk, you better pull Mike out of the mirror and take a look at yourself.

[SoftNwet]

My sentiments are that of Hula's signature:.
"I believe in expressing my opinions and being principled and I don't really care about who's ox is gored. " - Mary Frances Berry










:rolleyes: Damn, I'm takin' my ass to the Sex Forum......can't get in any trouble over there!!!!!
Or can I.......................come go with me.

[HulaSista]

but if you prefer for me to call you m-f's and bitches and skank ON the board, then, okay, i will. since you prefer that.

but, what is so punk-ish about calling you punk in private when i also just did it on the board in my last post? and in this one.

punk.

[FAMU]

All I am saying is that I don't mind being cussed out by you on the board if thats how you truely feel. There is no need for us to go on bickering about this back and forth. Just know that you say what you feel about me on this board because what you think about me will not pay my light bill, cable bill, or car note.

[HulaSista]

gaaaaaaaaat damn.....

ain't no body tryna pay your mortgage up in here. shit.

FOR YOU... i will challenge you on the board.

But I am still tryna understand how respectin someone who may choose to talk off the board is being a punk as you call it?

Just to end this: i really don't care who's ox is gored.

[que90nek]

lol

hmmm

where should i start....

i called no particular person out of their hushname! but if the shoe fits...please put the shoe on. or just get better.

there was a shift a long long time ago....where folks started having the REALLY juicy conversations in PM's....for some reason any disagreement any real live discussion was somehow deemed inappropriate to stay in the public arrena. i have NEVER agreed with this...and my track record has proven that.

i have gotten this off my chest and if truth be known...it's not the pm's that I get that are so bothersome...its the pm's that i hear about! *oops did i say that out loud*

nobody is truly a punk because this is all just cyber. it's really not that serious.

[Tastey]

Originally posted by CD+



You phucked me up over here and now you want to rub my feet...ha,ha,ha...

I don't agree with name calling either, on a personal level..

You know I gots mad lub for you CD..LOL :D :D

I've been told by other Hush folk (not Soft) Hey, I thought you were my friend...why did you post that?

Because it's my opinion...don't mean I don't still gots mad lub for ya. :D :D

[swtjamaica]

..that freedom of speech was still in effect here...if it is, then WHOEVER is "timid" about posting needs to keep that in mind...SO FUCKIN WHAT that we have debates and seem to claw each others eyes out?? at the end of the day, we know that, or should know and understand that everyone is entitled to speak their peace whether we agree or not....i used to believe that people trolled to boards to stir up shit, but now that i look back on my "pre pay" hush days, those people seem to not be on here anymore...i occasionally like to challenge one's thought process, and i don't take it personal when someone feels like they want to challenge mine...someone (i can't remember who, sorry) previously posted that we are ADULTS...no need to go pming your opinion to someone else when you can damn well post it on the board...wtf??? come on y'all...we want to hear what you think..whether we agree or not...:blah:

[Vronni]

I don't agree with name calling but on the other hand I guess I don't understand why people are afraid to speak their mind? That is what a message board is for. And if you are opinionated enough to speak your mind in a pm,why can't you do it on the board? That is what creates unnecessary drama on the hush. I ,and at least some of Hush fam,respect people who are willing to speak their mind,regardless of who agrees or disagrees,with it. It's understandable that some of us try to avoid having conflict with anyone, but at the same time-be true to yourself. So, say what you gotta say. It's not like someone is going to kick your a$$ over it-this is cyberspace!

[Qjai]

I usually dont have much to say when stuff like this comes out. But this time I figured why not "say your say" :D

I am one for not wanting a lot of "drama" or confrontation online. I'm not that type of person in real life and couldn't be it online. Online it seems to be a waste of time to me to have a battle of words to someone who only exists on my monitor. Its generally not that personal to me. Others may feel differently. I do think that if its worth typing in a PM its worth posting. I dont get PMs :( then again, I rarely send any either :D

But if you have a plus by your name then you paid your dues and you have a right to say whatever you want when you want regardless of who likes it. There isn't a hush mob waiting to murder you cause you disagreed with someone of a certain clique :D

That is all:cool:

[MsMeelah]

Originally posted by que90nek+
great...
....you have a different opinion...that means u hate me...that means u hate me and now i must die.... :cry:
relationships cause the demise of GOOD HUSH...of good discussion...which has BOTH sides!


There are sheep, shepherds, and wolves....which one are you!

let me add one more....there are the little bugs that ride on the sheep....they are the worst!

LOL!!!!

[OhSoPrecious]

Originally posted by Mr. Famu+
Make no mistakes about it, there are cliques on the hush.

Now, why when I use to say that. . everybody would get pissed~!! :rolleyes:

Damn, after ALL this time. . . I'm still not down with any Hush cliques~!! :hammer I ain't no punk either~!!! :blah:

[Tastey]

Originally posted by OhSoPrecious+


Now, why when I use to say that. . everybody would get pissed~!! :rolleyes:

Damn, after ALL this time. . . I'm still not down with any Hush cliques~!! :hammer I ain't no punk either~!!! :blah:

Probably because as always the cliques are figments of FAMU's vivid imagination.

When people bond, or make friends, trade PM's, talk offline, or God forbid, agree in a thread....that does not make them part of a clique. :rolleyes:

[djackso]

So Que who was the hush punk?